Central Idaho Amateur
Radio Club
CIARC Meeting Minutes - October 2015
Meeting Minutes - October 2015

Attending Members
AD7IW, Bailey, Tim KG7GKM, Good, Julie KE7HKY, Mayfield, Janet KE7FST, Sorensen, David
W7CBS, Beckham, Bill KB7BVS, Good, Philip W7LCC, McQuade, David KG7SBW, Stewart, Dennis
KG7OGQ, Beckham, Christian KG7UAB, Hamilton, Brian W7CIA, Montagne, Ray SSTEWART, Stewart, Sue
KC7JHX, Bracht, David KG7GKN, Huston, Mike KB7BVR, Peterson, Kermit N7IBC, Stokes, Larry
KG7GKL, Crogh, Anna KG7GKO, Kallies, Dan KG7MGZ, Platt, Richard W7ELE, Wagner, Richard
W7HXU, Crogh, Lenard KG7GKP, Kerby, Jeff K6JMQ, Quinzio, John W6HTW, Welch, Hank
KG7MFC, Didisse, Karin KE7TQV, Lakomski, Peter KF7JPJ, Renn, Bob KJ6NIM, Welch, Judy
KC7JLU, Forker, Brad KG7GKQ, Mangum, Larry KG7UAD, Roff, Jeffrey 
KC7SRF, Forrey, Steve K7HCS, Mayfield, Bill N7HQT, Shinn, Jeff 

Agenda Items

    1. Welcome Guests & Visitors [Richard Wagner - W7ELE]

    2. Membership Report. [Bob Renn - KF7JPJ]

      Associate 0
      Family 12
      Individual 20
      Life 2
      Total 34

    3. Treasurer's Report. [Bob Renn - KF7JPJ]

      Balance $1572.91
      Outstanding Debits $0.00
      Outstanding Deposits $0.00

    4. Officer Nominations [Richard Wagner - W7ELE]

      CIARC elections are held in December with nominations being forwarded at the November meeting. Members should start thinking about who they would like to nominate to serve as CIARC officers for the 2016 year.

    5. Amateur Radio License Study & Test Session - Follow Up Report [Ray Montagne - W7CIA]

      The next W5YI-VEC test session held by the Central Idaho Amateur Radio Club (CIARC) on Saturday, October 3, 2015 at the Valley County Emergency Operations Center, 108 W Spring St, Cascade, ID. Registration is required. Registrants must bring the following items:

      • Two forms of identification. One form of identification must have a photo.
      • The test fee ($30 for class & test session, $14 for test session only). Note that the test fee is required, regardless whether a passing score is attained during the test session. If paying by check, please make the check out to Central Idaho Amateur Radio Club.
      • A calculator (optional). Calculator applications installed on a smart phone will not be allowed. FCC regulations mandate that calculators cannot have memory functions.
      • If you are upgrading your license, please bring both your original license and a photo-copy of the original license. You will retain your original and we will attach the photo copy to the application.
      • Applicants will need to provide either their Social Security Number (SSN) or FCC Federal Registration Number (FRN) on the FCC application (i.e. FCC NVEC FORM 605). If you wish to obtain an FRN prior to the class & test session, you may do so by registering with the FCC Universal Licensing System at http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/index.htm. If you do not have an FRN then you will need to provide your SSN. If you do not want to provide your SSN, apply for an FRN in advance of the test session.

      The session will begin promptly, with registration, at 8:00 AM on the scheduled date. There will be regular breaks, including a 1:15 break for lunch.

      9:00 AM STUDY SESSION #1
      9:45 AM BREAK
      10:00 AM STUDY SESSION #2
      10:45 AM BREAK
      11:00 AM STUDY SESSION #3
      11:45 AM LUNCH BREAK
      1:00 PM STUDY SESSION #4
      1:45 PM BREAK
      2:00 PM STUDY SESSION #5
      2:45 PM BREAK
      3:00 PM STUDY SESSION #6
      3:45 PM BREAK

      Registrants who are going to test but are not attending the class may show up at any time after completion of the introduction and instructions to take their test. Registrants who are taking the class session are asked to arrive by 8:00 AM to enable registration to be completed by 8:30 AM.

      Congratulations to Dave Bracht [KC7JHX], Bill Beckham [W7CBS], Bob Renn [KF7JPJ] and Hank Welch [W6HTW] on receiving their W5YI-VE accreditation.

      The following VE team members have agreed to assist with the October 3rd session:

      Richard Wagner [W7ELE] VE WILL ATTEND
      John Quinzio [K6JMQ] VE WILL ATTEND
      Dan Kallies [KG7GKO] VE WILL ATTEND
      David McQuade [W7LCC] VE WILL ATTEND
      Bob Renn [KF7JPJ] VE WILL ATTEND
      Dave Bracht [KC7JHX] VE WILL ATTEND
      Bill Beckham [W7CBS] VE WILL ATTEND

      Setup for the test session will begin at 7:30 AM. We will need VEs present to assist with check-ins starting at 8:00 AM (a few minutes early would be useful as registrants usually begin arriving ahead of schedule).

    6. Repeater Status [Ray Montagne - W7CIA]

      On August 22nd, Larry Stokes [N7IBC], Richard Wagner [W7ELE] and Ray Montagne [W7CIA] traveled to the KA7ERV Pilot Peak repeater to install a link antenna and link radio. Installation of the radio and antenna went smoothly and the signal path between the link hub and No Business Mt. and the Pilot Peak repeater site was verified to be viable. Due to some documentation issues, the link could not be made operational at that time.

      On September 24th, Ray Montagne [W7CIA] returned to the KA7ERV Pilot Peak repeater site and installation of the link equipment was completed. The KA7ERV link is now operational and available for emergency communications and for pre-scheduled and pre-approved public service events. Permission must be obtained from Rob Blout [KA7ERV] prior to enabling the link. Control code access is limited to only those control operators that have been approved by Rob. All discussions on policy have leaned toward Rob retaining control of when and how the link is used. The creation of an MOU has been discussed but no written proposal has been forwarded at this time, but it is recommended that we do proceed with an MOU.

      Central Idaho Amateur Radio Club - Repeater Network Status (Captured 28 September 2015)
      # Memory
      Call Sign Location Band Frequency
      Offset CTCSS DCS Type Status
      1 CIAR2N KC7MCC No Business Mt 2m 147.0200 - 100.0   Repeater OPERATIONAL
      2 KC7MCC No Business Mt 33cm 927.2250 -   023 Link Hub OPERATIONAL
      3 CIAR2B KC7MCC Brundage Mt 2m 146.9000 - 123.0   Repeater OPERATIONAL
      4 KC7MCC Brundage Mt 33cm 902.2250   023 Link Satellite OPERATIONAL
      5 N7IBC N7IBC McCall 70cm 444.1250 100.0   Repeater OPERATIONAL
      6 N7IBC McCall 33cm 902.2250   023 Link Satellite OFFLINE
      7 W7CIA W7CIA Cascade 70cm 441.9250 100.0   Repeater OPERATIONAL
      8 W7CIA Cascade 33cm 902.2250 +   023 Link Satellite OPERATIONAL
      9 CIAR2S W7CIA Cascade 2m 146.9000 - 110.9   Remote Receiver OPERATIONAL
      10 W7CIA Cascade VOIP 0.0000     IRLP OPERATIONAL
      11 W7CIA-R Cascade VOIP 0.0000     EchoLink OPERATIONAL
      12 CIAR70 KC7MCC OUT OF SERVICE 70cm 442.5000 100.0   Repeater OFFLINE
      13 KA7ERV Pilot Pk (Boise Co.) 33cm 902.2250 -   023 Link Satellite AVAILABLE

      Click here for current repeater status.

      Planned future maintenance tasks include:

      • Installation of the link antenna radome at Brundage Mt.
      • Adjustment of the downlink transmitter deviation at No Business Mt. to 2 kHz deviation (planned for 2016).
      • Installation of a Communications Specialists Digital Coded Tone Squelch decoder in the uplink receiver located at No Business Mt. This will be an effort to remove the bounced PTT behavior that occurs after the uplink receiver goes inactive and then briefly goes active again, even though no signal is present (suspected to be a behavior of the Kenwood TK-941 receiver DCTS decoder).
      • Installation of a Motorola Micor Squelch Gate (RLC Communications model RLC-MOT) in the Yaesu DR-1X repeater located at Brundage Mt. (planned for 2016).
    7. IMTUF-100 [Richard Wagner - W7ELE]

      Next year's event may impose some operational restrictions with respect to using either simplex (i.e. half-duplex) operations on the repeater output frequency or using reverse repeater channels while the repeater is active. Stations should always use a simplex frequency in lieu of overloading the repeater channel assignments of an active repeater with a self coordinated separate radio network. To use the repeater channels of an active repeater in any other context than through-the-repeater operation is considered to be a very poor operating practice. CIARC technical staff had to respond to a number of false reports of radio failure because of this inappropriate mode of operation, which resulted in both weak signals and hearing only one-half of a conversation. There are very few cases where such operation is appropriate, and those few cases have a very limited duration of scope (e.g. passing a brief message through another station to coordinate switching frequencies after driving out of range of the repeater as one example). Idaho has 18 simplex frequencies available in the VHF 2-meter band-plan, and any of these would be more appropriate than overloading the intended purpose of coordinated active repeater frequencies.

    8. Highway Cleanup [Richard Wagner - W7ELE]

      No members have signed up for the Highway Cleanup, tentatively scheduled for Saturday, October 17th. A sign-up sheet will be circulated at the October meeting. If you are interested and were not able to sign up at the October meeting, please contact Richard Wagner [W7ELE].

      CIARC members should log-in to their account and then visit this page to view contact information to volunteer for the Highway Cleanup event.

    9. Club BBQ [Bill Beckham - W7CBS]

    10. Floor Items [Richard Wagner - W7ELE]

      • Possible topics for presentation after the business portion of the meeting were forwarded, including:
        • Simplex, Repeater, Simplex On The Input, & Simplex On The Output operation.
        • What to look for when purchasing a radio.

      1. SIMPLEX AND DUPLEX MODES [Ray Montagne - W7CIA]