Central Idaho Amateur
Radio Club
CIARC Meeting Minutes - February 2015
Meeting Minutes - February 5, 2015

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Attending Members
AD7IW: Bailey, Tim K6JMQ: Quinzio, John K7HCS: Mayfield, Bill K7KLE: Eimers, Kirk
KB7BVR: Peterson, Kermit KB7BVS: Good, Philip KC7JHX: Bracht, David KC7SRF: Forrey, Steve
KE7HKY: Mayfield, Janet KE7TQV: Lakomski, Peter KF7JPJ: Renn, Bob KG70GQ: Beckham, Christian
KG7GKK: Beckham, Bill KG7GKL: Crogh, Anna KG7GKM: Good, Julie KG7GKN: Huston, Mike
KG7GKO: Kallies, Dan KG7GKP: Kerby, Jeff KG7GKQ: Mangum, Larry KG7GKS: Wagner, Richard
KG7MFC: Didisse, Karin KG7MFG: Platt, Shelley KG7MGZ: Platt, Richard N7HQT: Shinn, Jeff
N7IBC: Stokes, Larry W7CIA: Montagne, Ray W7HXU: Crogh, Lenard W7LCC: McQuade, David

Attending Guests
Call Sign First Name Last Name EMail

Agenda Items
  1. Membership Report. [Bob Renn - KF7JPJ]

    2015 Membership Dues are due now. Members must be in good standing in order to qualify to vote on pending amendments to the Constitution and Bylaws.

  2. Treasurer's Report. [Bob Renn - KF7JPJ]

    Family 10
    Individual 17
    Life 1
    Total 28

  3. Treasurer's Report. [Bob Renn - KF7JPJ]

    Balance $2606.42
    Outstanding Debits $0.00
    Outstanding Deposits $70.00

    A motion was made, seconded and carried unanimously to accept the report of the Treasurer.

  4. Ballot Election [Richard Wagner - KG7GKS]

    Member Vote To Approve / Disapprove Board Appointment Of Bill Beckham (KG7GKK) to the office of the Vice President.

    The membership has ratified the board appointment of Bill Beckham (KG7GKK) to the position of CIARC Vice President. Congratulations Bill.

  5. Field Day - June 27 & 28 [Richard Wagner - KG7GKS]

    We're exploring having a Field Day station, located on Snowbank Mountain, on the third weekend in June. There is a large parking area just where the road to Snowbank Mountain crosses the summit. We would use the parking lot on the south side of the road. The following images are panoramas viewed to the east and west from that location.

    Additional information on field day can be found here.

    Members who are interested in participating in Field Day (i.e. operating position, providing radio equipment or antennas for the event, etc.) should contact Richard Wagner (KG7GKS) via email. See the CIARC roster for Richard's email address.

  6. Brundage Mt. Repeater [Richard Wagner - KG7GKS]

    1. MOU Status

      Bill Beckham (KG7GKK) and Ray Montagne (W7CIA) were tasked in the November 2014 meeting to meet and draft an MOU.

      A draft MOU has been prepared and circulated to the Board of Directors. Recommended changes to the draft have been integrated, and CIARC members are asked to review the draft MOU by clicking here.

    2. Equipment Opportunity

      At some point this year, the technical committee was going to evaluate the 30-year old equipement on Brundage Mountain, and make recommendations toward updating that equipment to more modern equipment, with one of the goals being to reduce the spurious emissions from the transmitter, and especially the harmonic content, so that the 33cm link could be enabled between Brundage Mountain and No Business Mountain. John Quinzio (K6JMQ) recently informed us of an opportunity that has accelerated this evaluation.

      Yaesu is running a highly discounted offer, through a beta test program, of their DR-1X repeater. This is a dual-band repeater with both digital and analog capabilities. The most relevant specifications are:

      • RX Sensitivity: 0.2µV for -12 dB SINAD (very hot receiver)
      • TX Output Power: 5-watts, 20-watts or 50-watts.
      • Built-in Power Supply

      The repeater can be configured for a single repeater pair, operating on either the VHF or UHF bands.

      There are four modes of operation available:

      • Analog RX, Analog TX
      • Digital RX, Digital TX
      • Automatic RX (i.e. analog or digital), Analog TX
      • Automatic RX (i.e.analog or digital), Automatic TX (i.e. mirrors RX mode)

      Either full analog operation, or automatic RX with analog TX would best fit our requirements.

      This is a limited time offer from Yaesu, where an existing club can request to participate in a BETA program. Participation costs $250, but, for an additional $250, the repeater can be retained by the club after the BETA program expires. In other words, for $500, the club could own a brand new 2015 technology repeater. This is a substantial savings over the $1699 retail price (REF: GigaParts), and represents a savings of $1199 over the retail price.. The $500 price tag does not include shipping or tax.

      This is a limited time offer, and requires that the club make a decision to purchase the DR-1X at the February 2015 meeting. Any delay would put us out of the window of opportunity.

      The largest concern is for the acoustic footprint. The repeater is located in the Brundage Mountain Ski Patrol hut. We've successfully fought off previous eviction notices, including one for fan noise when there were no fans in the repeater. Obviously, noise is a sensitive issue. There may be a need to modify the repeater fan to include a thermistor control (about six parts, already in Ray Montagne's component inventory), slow down the fan, or install acoustic foam in the repeater cabinet to ensure a low acoustic footprint. It may be that one or more of these recommendations may need to be implemented.

      The only other related required purchase would be for a larger dummy load (100-watts) to be attached to the isolator port closest to the antenna. These are available through eBay for approximately $35.

      The board is unanimously recommending that the membership provide approval of this purchase.

      A motion was made by Kermit Peterson (KB7BVR), seconded by Lenard Crogh (W7HXU), and unanimously approved by members present, to approve a total expenditure of $600.00 toward the order of the Yaesu DR-1X repeater and 100-watt dummy load.

      Additional discussion, to be continued at a later date, suggested that the existing UHF repeater could have new crystals installed on our already coordinated UHF pair for a portable repeater that could serve both Valley County Search And Rescue and CIARC Public Service activities.

      A special thanks to John Quinzio (K6JMQ) for bringing this opportunity to our attention!

  7. 2015 Public Service Events Calendar [Ray Montagne - W7CIA]

    1. VCSAR Disabled Veterans Snowmobile Ride

      Valley County Search And Rescue is supporting the Disabled Veterans Snowmobile Ride, to be held on March 14, 2015.

      15 disabled veterans who are 50% disabled or more, are invited on an expense paid snowmobile ride in McCall. Although I was asked to provide a communications plan, I have no course information. Regardless, it would be very useful to have radio operators at key positions along the course. To sign up to assist, please contact Josh at (208) 422-1054 before February 15th.

      Since VCSAR cannot use Public Safety frequencies for this event, and other radio services have extremely limited capabilities, we'ed like to ask any CIARC members that can participate by providing communications capabilities through the UHF repeater, to volunteer to assist with this event. If you have a snowmobile to travel to Burgdorf, that would be a tremendous asset.

      Larry Mangum (KG7GKQ) indicated that the course will go from Francis Wallace (Warren Wagon Rd) to Burgdorf. Larry will be providing a .gpx file from which a map will be made available.

    2. McCall Trail Running Classic

      This event will occur on July 18th. There are some course changes, which have the 40-mile course extending to the east rather than to the north. The plan is for five aid stations, of which only three may have vehicle access. The three vehicle accessible aid stations will be at Jug Meadows Saddle, Boulder Lake, and Shaw Twins. The Lake Fork aid station has been eliminated. Two additional aid stations appear at Louie Lake Dam and Kennaly Creek Trail.

      This event has historically been supported solely by the Central Idaho Amateur Radio Club. Our requirements are for staffing of five aid stations and the start/finish line. Both the Jug Meadows Saddle aid station and the start / finish line require two operators. If the Louie Lake Dam and Kennaly Creek Trail aid stations are to be manned, this will require a motorcycle, horse or walking in. Perhaps some enterprising individual might want to backpack in.

      In any case, with this being a CIARC supported event, we need members to put this date aside in their calendar to help us out.

      Additional event information can be found at McCall Trail Running Classic. Spreadsheets that describe the course and the aid stations can be viewed here. A .gpx file can be downloaded here. A .kmz file, which can be viewed in Google Earth, can be downloaded here.

    3. IMTUF 100

      This event is scheduled for September 19 through September 20th. Although communications are primarily provided by REACT, and managed by Russ Dunn (N7SMA), the Central Idaho Amateur Radio Club provides use of its communications infrastructure to support this event. CIARC members are asked and encouraged to participate in providing communications services.

      Additional event information can be found at IMTUF 100. Note that the IMTUF 100 course runs counter-clockwise this year. A .gpx file can be downloaded here. A .kmz file, which can be viewed in Google Earth, can be downloaded here.

      CIARC members are asked to contact Russ Dunn to volunteer.

  8. Winter Carnival [Larry Stokes - N7IBC]

    Larry reported that with 60,000 people in McCall, only one incident occurred during Winter Carnival. Larry also reported that 146.46 worked out fine, and that most communications issues were related to crowd noise. Larry also said that manpower would have been low had Amateur Radio operators not been present to assist. Thanks to all who participated!

  9. Event Booth [Richard Wagner - KG7GKS]

    Richard brought up discussion on having a booth staffed at select civic events to advertise CIARC. Bill Beckham (KG7GKK) and Karin Didisse (KG7MFC) recommended brochures be made available. Larry Stokes (N7IBC) recommended that CIARC obtain a special event call sign (temporary assignment) and staff an HF station at the booth. Ray Montagne (W7CIA) offerred the loan of a 9 ft X 9 ft shelter for these events. There will be on-going discussion on this issue.

  10. St Lukes - McCall [Richard Wagner - KG7GKS]

    Richard has been in contact with Tim Wilcox of St Lukes. There are some indications that the antenna donation is starting to see some movement.